Here’s an extract from the audio:
Teresa Tang:  ,
One thing I know for sure is that Nusantara is a very far apart. We know it sits on an old timber farm, you know, and I think, Lewa, you mentioned more than 1000km aside from Jakarta. But Saiful, what’s going to happen to Jakarta once Indonesia actually moves its cash, whenever that may be? When social power’s chair and wealth’s center are separated, what does that mean?
Saifulbahri Ismail:
After Nusantara became the nation’s capital, politicians granted unique position to Jakarta before in March this year to provide a legal framework for the state’s place. Then under that platform, Jakarta may be as the country’s economic gateway and a world city. Now the question is, does relocating the region’s capital to East Kalimantan help to solve Jakarta’s some problems…  ,